Thursday, June 12, 2008

Equipment Review: Smith and Wesson M&P 9c

I am interested in obtaining my concealed weapons permit for South Carolina. I had a small amount of money on me from the stimulus check the government was nice enough to send me and wandered into one of the local gun shops. I asked the gentleman about a nice weapon I could use for concealed carry.

He walked to case and handed me a Taurus Millennium. I looked at the gun and immediately handed it back to him. I don't know many things, but I do know you don't scream fire in a crowded movie theater and don't buy any Taurus semi-auto pistols (see note below). I am not a Taurus hater, they make fine wheel guns (revolvers) but I have seen and heard too many horror stories about their autos and even more about their customer service.

The next gun the clerk handed me was a Glock 26. Nice gun...but it felt blocky in my hand. I asked him about the S&W M&P's that were in the next case over...one of the other clerks immediately quipped "Nice choice!". It just so happens they had a lightly used M&P 9c that was very reasonably priced. I examined the gun and it felt fantastic in my hand. The clerk pulled out the case and showed me it came with three back straps: small, medium and large. The medium was on the gun...I asked him if I could put the large on and he obliged. The gun felt even BETTER in my hand!

I inspected the guts of the gun and when I say lightly used, it looked like whomever had owned it fired about two magazines through it total. The gun came with a case, three back straps, take down tool and 2 magazines - 12 round capacity - 9mm (one with a finger rest and one without the finger rest).

Here are the technical specs from S&W's site:
Model: M&P
Caliber: 9mm Capacity: 12+1
Barrel Length: 3.5"
Front Sight: Steel Ramp Dovetail Mount (Tritium Sights Optional)
Rear Sight: Steel Novak® Lo-Mount Carry (Tritium Sights Optional)
Trigger Pull: 6.5 lbs.
Trigger Travel: Rest to Fire .300 in.
Trigger Reset: Approx. .140 in.
Frame: Compact Finish: Slide and Barrel Black Melonite®, 68 HRc Overall Length: 6.7" Material: Zytel Polymer Frame, Stainless Steel Barrel/Slide and Structural Components
Weight Empty (No Mag): 21.7 oz.
Overall Height: 4.3"
Width: 1.2"
Sight Length: 5.75"

The gun is perfect for concealed carry. The magazine without the finger rest was useless to me. Here is my plug for S&W's customer service - I contacted them and they sent me a free finger rest no questions asked. I immediately purchased two additional 12 round magazines (with finger rests), so I now have four mags for the gun. I also picked up a Fobus paddle holster as well for range use - I still need a concealed carry holster but there is no rush as I don't have my permit yet anyway.

I took the gun to the range with 2 boxes of Winchester White Box 9mm Luger 100 round packs. I loaded it up and blasted away. The gun is extremely accurate...I was making excellent groups at 7 and 15 yards - all kill shots (fairly rapid fire). I fed the rest of the rounds (200 total) through the gun with no failures at all. The sites are good but I may upgrade to the night sights when some more disposable income rolls in. The magazines are a bit tough to get that 12th round in but they will loosen up with use I am sure.

The only "weird" thing for me is the lack of an external safety on the gun. I have never owned a gun without one so it will take some time getting used to that. My gun is equipped with a magazine disconnect (which I hate). For those not familiar with magazine disconnects they will not allow the gun to fire if there is a round in the chamber and the magazine is removed. They do make models that lack the magazine disconnect and I would recommend getting one of those.

One nice feature I like but many other folks don't is a loaded chamber indicator. There is a small space located on the slide where you can see the bullet in the chamber if the gun is loaded. Many people feel they allow debris to get into the gun...I like them (nice safety feature) although I would never just rely on that. The only way to be sure the gun is unloaded is to eject the magazine and rack the slide a few times, then partially open the slide and inspect the chamber. THAT IS THE ONLY WAY TO BE 100% SURE THE GUN IS UNLOADED. Also NEVER point the gun at anyone even if you know it is unloaded - basic firearms safety...never take anything for granted.

The gun is simple to disassemble with the included take down tool. I literally have it apart in a few seconds. This is important because the simpler this is the more likely you will clean and oil it thoroughly. I will tell you this. I absolutely could not be happier with my purchase. I have put several hundred rounds through the gun in the last few weeks and the gun has performed flawlessly. I think it will be a great concealed carry piece.

NOTE: I seem to have irritated some Taurus Semi-Auto owners. Listen if your gun works fine that's great, I am happy for you. I am basing my Taurus comment on a few friends input as well as the experiences of some folks on forums and blogs I frequent. As with everything in this world "Your mileage may vary". I am actually looking at buying a Taurus revolver so as I said I am not a Taurus hater. I am sure there will be folks who tell me that S&W sucks. I recommend as with any purchase you do some research and then make your decision. Thanks.

...that is all.

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64 comments:

  1. You got a nice weapon there. I always liked the M99 and its changable backstrap.

    The M&P puts that best of the best in nice package.

    Now all they need is a 22lr conversion kit!

    Jerry

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  2. Amen to the .22 conversion kit! I have several thousand round of .22 that are a hell of a lot cheaper than the 9mm I have.

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  3. Just an FYI here. I own a .45 acp Taurus Millenium Pro, and have run literally 2-3000 rounds through it, with not one FTF or FTE or any other problem. Perhaps reconsider talking trash about a gun which you have no personal experience with.

    Just an idea.

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    1. i have seen these .45 millenium pro guns break from only working the action and dry firing and no shooting at all..

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  5. Had to retype my comment. The old spelling not so good.

    I have two friends that own Taurus semi-auto's. Both saw their guns disappear into a void for several months to be repaired. Both dealt with substandard customer service. Both told me not the buy the gun. Good enough for me. Thanks for visiting. As always your mileage may vary...

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  6. Wow. Striking similaries here. I also am in SC, wanting to get my carry licence, and I am looking at the M&P 9mm compact. I've visited the gun store numerous times to pet it and consider alternatives. I hate the way the taurus feels in my hand. Come to think of it, nothing feels as good at the M&P. I'm spoiled now.

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  7. As a side note, the M&P is actually manufactured by Walther for Smith & Wesson, one reason it looks so much like the P99. Solid construction, good choice.

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  8. WRONG!!! M&P's are actually made by S&W. They machine the slide and make the polymer frames and assemble in MA.

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  9. Fallout11 Anonymous is correct. You have it reversed. S&W manufactures some Walther slides. I have a P22 and the slide was manufactured by S&W.

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  10. I HAVE TO SAY THAT THE TAURUS SEMI AUTO GUNS ARE JUNK I HAVE HAD 1 FOR A YEAR NOW AND CANT SELL THE DAM THING. I HAVE HAD IT AT $250 $200 $150 $100 $50 AND SOLD IT TO MY BUDDY FOR $75 BUCKS AND HE HAD IT FOR A ABOUT A WEEK AND JUST TOLD ME THAT HE MADE A BAD CHOICE. AND NOW HE CANT SELL IT SO AS FAR AS ME I SAY F#UCK TAURUS THEY SUCK!!!

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  11. *MAGAZINE DISCONECT*

    You can easily remove the mag safety. There are simple directions on the internet.

    There are also GREAT instructions for a trigger job. Google M&P trigger job and you'll find them.

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  12. The person that says he cannot sell the Taurus is lieing. He owns no Taurus firearms.

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  13. I just picked up the 9C recently and i have a full size m&p. i looked at both glock26 and the M&P9C and I am left handed and i had nothing but good things to say about by 40 cal M&P so i went what works for me

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  14. Just bought mine yesterday, now have to wait the 3-day waiting period. I have to say the same thing about the M&P 9mm, for a compact size gun, with bigger hands, it felt really nice. I tried the 45 and thought it was little too much bang for me, but the 9mm was perfect. Can't wait!!!!

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  15. I have heard some very good things about the Taurus 1911's but in general I agree with what you have heard. Ironically I was thinking that I've heard more or less the same thing about S&W semi auto's.

    Glad it is working well for you in any case.

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  16. I just traded my Taurus PT111 Millennium Pro in on an M&P 9c, and I am so far very happy about it! I bought the Taurus primarliy because it was inexpensive, and it was to be my first handgun. I didn't know if I'd either enjoy shooting or really be comfortable with a gun for self defense. Turns out I can't get enough!

    Speaking of 22lr, I loved shooting so much that I bought a Browning Buckmark to plink with.

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  17. Hey I purchased the M&P 9c also. Awesome conceal & carry gun. Anyne have advice on ammo selection. A guy I know said not to fire +P ammo with this pistol.  Not sure if pressure is too high. I have been, still in one piece.  Wondering if this will cause excessive wear & tear.

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  18. S&W states that +P ammo should not be used in their revolvers manufactured prior to 1958. It also states not to use the +P+ stuff at all. Just picked up the new M&P 9C with the ambi thumb safety and no mag disconnect, it is one sweet piece of American hardware.

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  19. I just purchases my mp9c but before i did i looked at the taurus, kahr and glock. I liked he way the mp felt and all the reviews i have read say its one of the best just right belowe the glock. Im taking it out for some shooting this weekend then i got my ccw sunday. hope it all goes well

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  20. I have M&P compact 9 on layaway. 59 days, 22 hours, and she's mine, all mine.

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  21. I am Picking up mine on thursday. I am quite excited.

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  22. bought a m&p 40c 4 weeks ago. LOVE IT! i've put 900 rounds though it already, just keeps gettin smoother and smoother. clean up is easy. great choice, great gun, chews up anything i feed it.

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  23. If you have not found a ccw holster for this weapon yet, there is a company called PSP, stands for Personel Security Products(or something like that). They make an awesome little holster called their "Belt Slide" holster. It comes in 2 sizes(small & large). Get the large. It works perfect for the M & P compact. Or the full size for that matter. Check it out at PSP.com I like them so much I was thinking about becoming a distributor in My area. I think they cost $25. You will be happy with it.

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  24. I have recently purchased a Taurus PT 145 Millenium Pro .45 ACP and have run a little over 1,000 rounds of assorted ammo through it. Once in a while I can empty a mag without failure. It doesn't matter which mag I use. It will fail to feed often. I am a very experienced shooter and don't ever shoot with limp wrist. I am hoping the gun will begin to shoot dependably after more break in but am loosing hope. I will never have confidence in it.

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  25. I own Glock 9mm ,Glock .40, S&W 645 .45ACP, S&W M&P .40, S&W M&P .45 ACP, Taurus PT 145 MilPro. and Taurus 24/7 9mm, The best shooting of this group is the M&P .45 and M&P .40. More accurate than Glock and more comfortable. Faster at getting back on target. The Taurus PT 145 fails to feed very often. The Taurus 24/7 9mm has been OK so far. I have a Taurus 9mm revolver that fails to fire often because cylinder doesn't always properly align (sporatic timing problem).
    I also have a Rossi 357mag which is a division of Taurus with the same problem and have seen in friends Taurus revolvers.
    I will never buy any kind of Taurus again.

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  26. Just wanted to be clear on something.
    In the preceding post I stated that Rossi is a division of Taurus. I may be wrong about that, but the Rossi 357 mag was built by Taurus, It says so right on the gun.
    Also I forgot to mention that my M&P .45 and .40 have never failed to feed or fire. Not once in thousands of rounds. I can't say that about any semi-auto that I have ever owned except for my S&W 645 .45 ACP. It will actually handfeed an entire mag of empty brass without fail.
    S&W M&P = great gun.

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  27. I have owned an M&P .40 S&W since sept 2008. i love it. i have put more more ammo through this gun then most pistols ever see, on a good day in NH i will put between 300-500 rds of the cheapest ammo i can find. this is an extremely expensive hobby but between me and my brother its not as bad. after putting many thousands of the lowest end ammo and reloads through this gun in all conditions, rain, snow, mud and sun, i am proud to say it has never once misfired or jammed. once on a one week long camping trip we put put 1,300 rounds through it without any maintenance and no problems at all. this gun is the most reliable gun i own or have ever shot, it goes boom every time you pull that trigger and sends that unforgiving 180 gr slug down range. what more could you ask for

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  28. Went to the local gunshop/range on Tuesday to try some handguns for when I get my CCW here in Michigan. I told the staff I wanted a gun I could carry EVERYDAY and be comfortable with it and be able to handle it. I was considering Glock, Kahr and S&W. They suggested I give the S&W M&P 9c a try on the range. As soon as I picked it up I thought "this feels just right". Into the range I go. Load up and send the target 10 yards...I have not shot a handgun in over 10 years. I proceed to go through the 50 rounds in no time. All 50 shots hitting paper at center mass from 10 to 15 yards out. As soon as I fired the first shot I said " this is MY gun!"
    Just to make sure I checked the other ones out too but nothing felt as good in my hand. Even the diehard Glock fan staffer said "if it feels good in your hand, GET IT. The S&W is my second choice!" My stepdad (retired cop) confirmed it was a good choice.
    SOOOOO...I ran back and forth to get my permit to purchase and took that gun home that day! Now I just need the CPL and I am set!
    I have not fired a shot through it yet but I know there will be many to come!

    Any suggestions on a good and small "bedside locker" for this gun?
    Thanks!

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  29. I bought the M&P 40 first and loved it so much I bought the 40c compact which turned out to be just as fine of a firearm. Now I've added the M&P 9 to the mix and its just as easy to handle and shoot accurately as the other two. I did however opt for the Glock 21SF for my 45 caliber and love that one as well. All relieable, accurat and flawless in operaton. I'd recomment any of them to anyone.

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  30. I have a question I'm hopeing someone can answer from experience. My husband has an M&P40 that I also shoot. I am now waiting for my concealed carry license to come in and want to get a smaller gun for myself. At the gun show I was looking at the M&P 40 compact as thinking I would still be using the same gun and features I'm used to, but in a smaller concealable version. However I was told that the compact would have a harder recoil than the full size and I'm not sure with the shorter grip of the compact that I would be comfortable with more recoil than the one my husbands full size has. Can anyone comment on this that has fired both guns? They told me I'd probably be better off with the M&P 9mm compact. I would really like to stay with the 40 caliber, but not if it is much harder for me to handle and not as enjoyable. Also if anyone has fired all 3 of these, could you please tell me if there is a huge difference in the recoil from the 40 full size, 40 compact and the 9mm compact? FYI... our M&P 40 has the magazine saftey and both my husband and I love it and that will be a definate requirement of my new M&P no matter which caliber I decide to go with. Thanks for any input you can give me on this.

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  31. Well it is fair to say that a gun that has a shorter barrel (and smaller frame than another in the same caliber will most likely have more kick unfortunately. The best advice I can give is see if you can rent the gun at your local range before purchasing one to see if you can handle it.

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  32. Hope your firing pin, trigger assembly, or barrel never needs replaced, check the parts availability.

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  33. NICE CHOICE OF WEAPON!!!!!
    Taurus owners maybe upset but so what? I bought a Taurus once and it broke, came apart, pieces snapped in half on it. I would never own one again. Sure they may have become better manufacutres since but any trust in their weapons was gone for me, I figure there is a reason you dont see any law enforcment agncies carrying them. It was a PT-111 I had.
    Sorry to offend people too, but facts are facts.
    My S&W M&P .40 is about the only gun to compare to, possibly surpass my Glocks in accuracy and depepndability.

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  34. I purchased a "slightly used" M&P .40 with the Crimson Trace Laser grips on it. I absolutly LOVE THIS GUN! For those who have never had CT lasergrips but thought about it. Do it, they are a great asset for when you cannot push out into a two arm combat stance. The Laser grip is equivalent to the medium backstrap setting and feels awesome in the hand. I turned the Laser off and fired throught the Tritium night sights at 25 yards and grouped very well. (just as good as my XD.45acp service) Another excellent gun... But due to its size and printing, I chose to carry the Smith for Concealed Carry. Have only put two 100 round boxes of Remington UMC's and not one hickup...even purposefully limp wristed and ate every round with no complaints. Smith&Wesson hit a home run with the M&P!

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  35. I just bought a S&W M&P in .40, and it is freaking sweet. 800+ rounds and not even a hiccup.

    As for the Taurus comment, it is understandable from your experience, but it isn't a valid concern now. Taurus did have real quality problems years back, until they bought the Beretta factory. Since then, they've been pumping out well-made semis at a very reasonable price, which they can do because they build it from scratch and cut out the middle man. I bought a PT-92 and P1911, and I gotta say, the company has done a turn around. Taurus is high quality nowadays, for sure.

    But yeah, my M&P remains my favorite :D

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  36. Hey folks. Have a 9c myself and love it. Now as far as holsters i bought two but have not used them since i put a (CLIPDRAW) on it and that was recommended to me by a Detroit cop.Get a clipdraw

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  37. I just bought a S&w 59. I was a old cop carry gun. I is a sweet gun.

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  38. $0.02 more...

    I own Glock 19, Browning Hi Power, Steyr GB, Taurus PT-111 and M&P, all in 9MM. After considering the Steyr GB my favorite handgun for nearly 20 years, it has gone into the safe and the M&P now lives in the nightstand.

    To the Taurus owners who have posted: I own an older Taurus revolver and it is a sweet little snub nose. As to my PT-111 Millenium Pro: it's accuracy stinks (and this is based on a side-by-side shootout using all my 9mm's) and it jams often. I have never sold or traded-in a gun in my life, but the PT-111 won't be around much longer... just no interest in owning a gun that can't hit the target and can't be depended upon to operate.

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  39. Planning on buying the M&P 9c. I carry a M&P 45 on duty. The Springfield XD 9 subcompact is a contender. Any idea how the two compare?

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  40. my son has both mp 40 full and compact , great guns fit me well , i will be trading off my block 23 for a compact, also check out tucker gun leather , i feel they are the best money can buy , we have two in black chery and they are super

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  41. TAURUS IS TRASH
    Let the world know. Before I bought my first gun I shot several Taurus range guns; who cares about accuracy - they just didn't shoot! I later chose a Smith & Wesson SW40VE Sigma, a beautiful Glock clone after only mild polishing; but also recently purchased a M&P 9c and holy cr*p is this thing nice! Everyone who touches it falls in love - I'm serious. Get one, or at shoot one that your buddy paid for.

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  42. I am absolutely satisfied with my M&P 9c. My first gun HAD to be american because I will never sell it. My next pistol WILL be a Taurus. The Judge Public Defender looks to be the coolest thing around for ccw and giggles at the range (skeet shooting with a compact revolver!)

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  43. Smith M&P's are nice for a polymer pistol. Better choice in my opinion. The Glock's are great as well, built like a brick but also carry like one. I'm not referring to the weight, but to the block-like slide and frame. The Smith M&P's are more rounded and feel better to me in the grip. Get the Smith M&P, great pistol and customer service as well !

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  44. Nice review. I chose a M&P 9c with manual safetey over the Glock 26 and HK P2000SK. The M&P is slightly shorter than the HK, and has better capacity and ergonomics than both pistols. The sight radius is relatively long on the M&P, which helps to make it an excellent shooter. My M&P 9c replaces a Kahr PM9 that lasted 400 rounds before the barrel and slide peened to the point of light primer strikes. I never felt really armed with the Kahr - it simply doesn't shoot as well or have high enough capacity to give the warm fuzzies.

    Unlike the OP, I prefer the flat baseplate for carry. It doesn't bother me to have my pinky dangle off the bottom, and it shoots about the same for me with both baseplates.

    Overall, I'd rank the M&P 9c among the best all-around 9mms available. Mine's clocked 800 rounds without a problem and shoots on par with my higher priced plastic. The short baseplate makes it an excellent carry piece, and the longer baseplate gives enough grip for range and home defense applications.

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  45. Edit: Meant to say M&P9c GRIP is shorter than HK P2000SK in the previous post. The grip is he hardest part of a pistol to conceal, and the M&P 9c's grip with the flat baseplace is among the shortest in its class.

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  46. You passed up on the ultimate concealed carry pistol, except you would want to get it in a .45 Cal. I sold my PT145 Milenium Pro and tried to buy it back from the guy to no avail. They get a little dirty, but it is accurate, has a light trigger, and fires every time. One of my purchases that was recomended to me for IPSC was the M&P 9 in a 5" barrell. I am not a fan of the fixed rear sight and disassembly is not as smooth as my glock. Not only does the M&P 9 lack a safety, it was also manufactured without an integral lock. You did know that Taurus and S&W have had the same parent company since 1970 didn't you.

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  47. And your point about them having the same parent company is?

    Toyota make the Carolla and it also makes Lexus. That argument means NOTHING.

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  48. Nice gun. I have been looking at a SW99 .40 for about a year and been looking at the Sigma series also but when it came time to purchase I found a sweet CS45 used for an amazing price and got it. Great little gun. Some people have a hard time with the grips but I am a bigger guy and they fit me well. Matter of fact its hard to find a compact .45 that fits a bigger guys hands well but this one does and is very accurate. The only thing is gettng use to the recoil. I didn't think there would that much difference between a .40 or .45 in recoil but I was wrong.

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  49. I've owned a M&P 40 for a few years and I love it, it is my weapon of choice, so now I'm researching the M&P 9C as a concealed carry weapon and have not found anything bad about it yet.

    In regards to all the Taurus haters out there I'm surprised by your comments. I've bought 4 at gun shows and each of those times I constantly had dealers and private sellers asking me if I was selling. I've never had any problems with these guns and would recommend them, although not over my M&P.

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  50. I also have been looking at the M&P 9C as well as the compact M&P 40 for concealed carry. Ive held the 9 but never shot either. Love the way it feels in my hand and obviously see all the great reviews. So just as I'm ready to spring for the M&P a friend of mine recommends the Sig P250 to compare, and feels that its a better quality gun. Anyone here have any opinion or feedback on the Sig P250? He said that its almost a clone of the M&P 9C and suggesting I strongly consider it. Also I'm looking for some feedback from someone who has shot both the M&P 9C and 40 compact. Can't decide which way to go....

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  51. Flea just because a car company has a difference doesn't make using it in a gun argument congruent. With taurus it's a mixed batch but then again, that can be said for any other company for instance smith and wesson. The Sigma is a piece of junk that I'm suprised s&w would allow to have their name on. As far as the M&P goes, to each his own, I looked at the design and was not impressed, just another copy of the new DAO fad with everyone riding glocks coattails. Fortunately there are some companies that do it better than glock. Taurus I have had no problem with, as my pt92 has never had any problems whatsoever and every time I shoot it gets better and better. I've heard of some problem guns with other taurus autoloaders but never with a pt92. I agree with the author, but I doubt taurus will ever make a semi that functions like the pt92

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  52. The full size 9mm is a GREAT gun. Only issue I have had is that the front white dot sight 'fell' off. My wifes white fingernail polish for her french manicure, a toothpick and a steady hand fixed it!. No FTEs, not FTFs with 500 rounds of Winchester white box ball ammo (2 months new). Just picked up the 9mm compact today at a gun show, new, for a great deal, Marlin 60 .22LR and the M&P for $600.

    I am looking forward to shooting this piece. My 17 round mags work with compact so it will make range time a nice. It feels great! My wife likes the feel of it with the small grip and my youngest daughter is able to hold it well.

    This is a well made gun. The steel is tough! Easy to field strip and clean. Both have no safety except for the trigger safety. Conceals well in in a DeSantis OWB holster. My kids didn't know I was carrying it around with a medium tee (5'8" 155) and cargo shorts.

    I love the new M&P's. Breaks the Sigma stereotype and provides a solid, dependable and fun gun to shoot!

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  53. taurus is for swindlin negros and dirty spics

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  54. in resopnse to the post on april 10th 5:33 am

    i have a 645, was my first pistol, wanted a revolver (came later) but never could put myself to trade my 645 in, i've sold and bought many guns but my 645 and my remington 870 have always stayed home

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  55. I have an Ohio CCW and a Smith & Wesson M&P9C is my carry weapon. I love it! It is very accurate and easy to shoot, so I enjoy practicing with it on the range and I know it is going to fire every time! I also have a full size M&P40, which is the reason I decided on the 9C for my carry weapon, because it is so comfortable and reliable that I knew it would be the best choice for a carry weapon that I could count on and still enjoy shooting. I chose the compact 9mm because I knew it would have much less recoil than a compact 40 caliber, and owning both, it actually has less recoil than the full size M&P40.

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  56. I bought a Full Size and liked it so well I went and go a 9c too. They are both reat shooters for what they are. I also own a KelTech PF9. Very small and hard to shoot well. Still I carry it when I feel I need to.

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  57. Check out JetGuns.com. They have the M&P 9mm compact for $439.00 delivered. That is one great price. I just picked one up at my LGS that I ordered from Jet. It was in the shop in 2 days. Today I will strip it clean it and shoot it.

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  58. I recently picket up the 9c from a friend who had "worked" it to include a very smooth 5lb trigger and a polished feed ramp. Never having been a fan of semi autos or plastic guns I have to say this is an excellent weapon. Functions flawlessly with over 200 rounds of FMJ as well as HP. It carries easily IWB/appendix, almost as easy as my S&W J. I could not be happier.

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  59. These are quality guns no doubt. I don't care for their triggers, and that is a deal breaker for me.

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  60. I was debating between .40c and 9mmc .I already have .40 full size and I got 9mmc because its a lot easier to shoot and ammo is cheaper.

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  62. I've shot many different caliber pistols and found the S&WMP9c to be one of the most reliable, accurate and easiest pistols I've ever used. I've put over 1500 rounds through it with no failures of any kind. This semi-auto has now replaced my Ruger .357 which I has been my CCW for the last 25 years. I also called S&W about the extended finger rest and they immediately sent me one free of charge and they have always helped me with any questions I have. I would highly recommend the M&P9c to anyone.

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